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Conversations with me, No. 10
Email highlights, ca. March 1998

Dedicated to the proposition that every thought that's ever been thunk may be of use or interest to someone . . .


ME: All I know about the Raspberries is that I feel like I should know 
who or what they are, but don't.  I have seen an album cover many 
times.  Are they Beatle-esque?  Bay City Roller-esque?  Is that 
the same thing? 


THEE: The "Live Peace in Toronto" CD was fine.  It included the calendar 
(changed to 1995).  I note that if I'm too lazy to find John's "hard 
days night" (sic) quote in his book [In His Own Write], it appears in 
the October entry. 

"Saturday Night Live" did a special all-Chris Farley tribute last 
night.  They showed about the last third of the Macca interview.  Have 
you ever seen the footage?  Some of it is visually great. 

Now I shall listen to the Raspberries.  Acording to "Rolling Stone," 
they're '70s Beatlesque.  They were led by Eric Carmen, who 
successfully became a very syrupy solo star. 


ME: Arbutus record show is A-ok; I was just fantasizing about oceans 
of 50 cent records at the Second Story Books warehouse, that's all. 

Finished up some thoughts "from an old hand" on using the Library of Congress 
(LC) music division.  Soon to be published in the local guitar society journal! 
Soon to appear on the World Wide Web! 


THEE: Subject: Is the Net Passing You By? 

What speed modem are you using?  Integral put a few 14.4 Kbps modems out in 
the kitchen.  I pulled one out in case you're interested.  They're internal 
modems, but I assume they'll work in any PC. 


THEE: I printed two sets of labels for the guitar society newsletter. 
The first set I accidently left one "l" off of Russell, so it reads: 

  Note: Change of Date for David Russel Concert 

On the second set, I did my "Find/Change" command.  I told it to find "Russel" 
and Change it to "Russell".  Well, it fixed the first line so I thought all 
was good, but after all was said and done, I looked at it again and noticed it 
added an "l" to the text below so it reads: 

  Apr. 4 (Sat) 8 pm - David Russelll 


ME: Yeah, man, save one modem for me!  14.4 kbs, wow...  Does that 
require liquid nitrogen cooling? 

Netscape makes the _ longer, making my tablature rhythms harder to read. 
I guess I can't blame the newer, lower ~ on Netscape.  Oh yeah, it 
had a shorter line length than Lynx, cutting off the very end of a staff. 

14.4 kbs.  wow... 


ME: I'm sorry, but I must have missed or forgotten something.  You say 
"your" Bradford Tatum page?  Where is that?  I couldn't find a reference 
in your old email messages.  (Yes, everything you write is archived for 
all time!) 


THEE: Got a letter from the guy that set up the blood 
chat.  There have been 62 visitors!  He's involved now with Pro-
Tym...whatever that is...and he said the Prez read the blood 
chat--all of it--while Jason sat there.  Then, the Prez asked how 
he found someone so intelligent on AOL.  He was amazed that he 
had just gone to my profile. 


ME: re: mitochondrial eve 

I took a look at the ~krisna site.  It was presented clearly, problem is, 
it doesn't have anything to do with DNA or coming up with a date for 
Mitochondrial Eve (ME).  And it really pulls a fast one trying to make it 
sound like a woman many generations after the first one could easily be ME. 
I could believe one of the first woman's daughters.  *Maybe*... 

"As an exercise, try to eliminate just one phrase of the definition of 
the ME and see what happens. The key terms are most-recent, common 
ancestor, humans alive today, matrilineal descent." 

Notice, not a darn thing about DNA, which he admits in the following: 

  "While the existence of the ME and the YcA are mathematical..." 


ME: On the way back from Baltimiore County I heard an album 
cut by a current popular rock group with a line about "listening 
to a Louie Prima record."  I'm pretty sure it would have been pretty 
funny if I understood all the surrounding material. 

In case your wondering, my mom is *not* indiscriminate.  She gave me 
the Bob Harrington boxed set and said she didn't want it back - she 
never liked that one.  Looking at the discographies on the record 
sleeves, I'm still wondering where your rarity fits in. 


THEE: Subject: How am I going to get any riding done? 

I continued purging the archives from the old bedroom last 
Saturday.  I came across enough old Beatle material for you to require 
two carrying trips to the car from the room.  I also unearthed my 
videotape (made by Dad) of you and the gang on the local news during 
the "Beatles Anthology" era. 

I've now listened to the first 15 tracks on Bob's "Self Portrait." 
It is quite good, I think.  We couldn't help but sing "All the 
Tired Horses" all day yesterday.  At one point, we started singing it 
in thick Maryland accents, "Hah thi heel mah spost tuh git anee ridin 
done?" and so on.  We laughed it up. 

I successfully taped VH1's video archives this morning at 2 a.m. 
Imagine it being 1970.  Imagine being Dick Cavett.  Imagine having 
Janis Joplin sit on your right and Raquel Welch on your left.  What a 
show! 

My only conclusion about my Bob Harrington album is shocking, but 
obvious, when you think about it: 

BOOTLEG! 


ME: Subject: accents &c. 

Ah'd be glad to help with the move.  By the way, I've never even 
heard of a "Maryland accent", but I guess it must exist if both 
you and Hself can do one. 

In the discussion of accents, the all-time most intriguing thing for 
me is the Baltimore long O.  It is the essence of purity, but gets 
*laughed at* anywhere outside of a 10 mile range of Baltimore - by 
people who say it like they're drunk. 

Glad somebody else likes Self Portrait.  There's hope for this world 
yet.  Wig Wam is my favorite discussion song. 

After taking my Billboard book with me, I forgot to open it 
up to the Raspberries for you.  It says: 

  72   5  Go All The Way 
  72  16  I Wannabe With You 
  73  35  Let's Pretend 
  74  18  Overnight Sensation 

They're from Cleveland. 


ME: A while back you wrote "webless in Baltimore".  I'm sure 
that's a take off on something.  There was a song by Strawberry Alarm 
Clock called Barefoot In Baltimore, but I thought I was the only one 
who remembers that. 

If all goes well, I will soon move up to a 14.4 kbs modem (from 2400) 
that my buddy Hself rescued from the trash heap at work.  21st century, 
here I come! 


ME: Subject: death of a grad student [i.e. me] 

I just read Is Anyone Out There by Frank Drake - to make 
sure that I'm still a step ahead of all the other thinkers on the 
topic. 

On page 73 is a little firecracker of a footnote:  "Gold was one of the 
original proponents of the steady state universe... as opposed to having 
started off with a big bang, as most cosmologists now believe, *though 
the issue is far from clear*."  (Emphasis mine.) 

Drake shook a cobweb loose, by the way.  He mentions a lot of the 
astronomers I rubbed shoulders with (haha), including Ben Zuckerman, 
who was the one who took a little poke at the big bang looking over a just 
issued astronomical journal in the NRAO library.  That was where I 
got the notion that scientists themselves laughed at the theory, and 
that it was intended for public consumption only. 


THEE: "webless in Baltimore" a take off of the movie 
"sleepless in Seattle" 


THEE: The other night, I was driving home with my Raspberries tape 
blasting.  It sounded better in those surroundings.  So, enjoy it. 
The Rolling Stone record guide says that Cleveland was showing its 
first signs of being a center for new music, with bands like Pere Ubu, 
in the early '70s, and the Raspberries almost defiantly put on matching 
suits and started imitating the Beatles and Beach Boys, in the midst of 
this creative ferment. 

Hself never knew she had a so-called Maryland accent until she went 
to Boston College.  She ordered a "tuna melt" and the person behind 
her started making fun of her.  The sainted Baltimore long-o was key 
to our version of "All the Tired Horses."  We fell all over the place 
when we sang "How my spOst to git any ridin done." 

I started my day today with tracks 16 to 20 of "Self Portrait." 
What's the rap sheet on "The Mighty Quinn (Quinn, the Eskimo)"? 


ME: Got the 14.4 kbs computer connection working - you should see Lynx 
fly now!  All it took was plugging out and plugging in and poking around 
Telix.  I just switched back to COMM1 and changed baud rates 
two places in Telix.  Only head-scratcher was why Telix doesn't 
recognize 14.4 kbs.  I just used the next one up, 19.6 kbs.  When 
the connection was made, a message flashed up to the effect "connection 
at 14.4 kbs".  I don't understand, but it seems to know what it's doing. 

The Sailor number for Montgomery Co. is 301-424-4200.  Try not 
to fall back on the Prince George's no. 301-925-2400 - I don't want 
anybody slowing me down. 


THEE: Slow down and smell the roses every now and then. 


ME: I like Barefoot In Baltimore much better, (or Webfoot in Baltimore.) 


ME: Had a big blow-up over the most recent guitar society newsletter. 
Not a big deal in the scheme of things.  Upshot was that I refused 
to do a bunch of corrections and the mailing.  I was more than 
justified.  Maybe I was just trying to shake things up a little. 


ME: The "tuna melt" story is a spitting image of my "hoagie" 
story.  That's "sub" in Philadelphia.  In the college 
cafeteria, I was trying to order a hoagie, and the cafeteria 
worker couldn't understand what I was asking for and I kept 
yelling it louder and louder and more desperately and 
everybody was laughing.  Finally, she got it.  "Awghl [oh]! you 
want a *hawghl*gie!"  Push that supposed "O" sound as far back in 
the gullet as possible.  

In a Charlottesville restaurant, an observatory coworker 
cracked up when I ordered a Coke.  Everywhere else, it's 
a disgustingly guttural Cawghlk, of course.  Don't ask me why.  
If I awghlnly knew... 

Never had a clear idea on Quinn the Esquimo.  Almost sounds live, 
eh?  The Illustrated Record says "it has the sound of a homemade 
recording.  Somewhere through the muddy engineering, though, you 
can hear Dylan and the band really whooping it up..." 


THEE: I did go to see Roland Dyens a couple of Fridays 
ago, and that was an amazing performance. 


THEE: I polished off "Self Portrait" today.  It was fine.  I did like 
"Wigwam."  Now I'm on to a CD by someone named Idha, which Pete sent 
me.  Judging from the first song, it's going to be difficult to get 
through. 


ME: Thanks a millon for recommending Frank Drake's book.  
Besides its relevance to the discussion, I got so many buzzes 
seeing references to NRAO and Arecibo, where I worked 
occasionally as a student from 1972 to 1977, and the names of 
scientists I had crossed paths with and even worked for there.  
In my collection of memorabilia I have things like a preprint of 
Gerrit Verschuur's "A search for narrow band 21-cm wavelength 
signals from nine nearby stars" and Sebastian von Hoerner's 
"Universal music?"  (I worked for Gerrit in 1972.) 


ME: I took a trip down to LC expressly for verifying 
some things I had written, and that's when I discovered the 
amazing Gale's Class M book.  Whew, it was like a monstrous fog 
had lifted!  Before that, I used one of their card catalogs and 
this ratty black 3-ring binder book they have - pages falling out 
and everything.  Gale's is the same info - but presented in 
breath-taking clarity.  I had to rewrite most of my article - but 
it was worth it. 


THEE: I'm turning my attention to a 1956 LP of dramatic readings of 
bawdy limericks and stories from Ancient Greece to the 18th century. 
Ovid's "The Art of Love," which I listened to before my orange juice 
this morning, would make Bob Harrington's head swim. 


ME: Even with your clues, I never got TGIMINHTNIWTACWMSW. 


ME: Subject: what is german for chipmunk? 

I've played the Beatle bootleg Renaissance.  Side 1 starts off 
"best sound quality to date"!  Man, I could hear "There's 
a letter for you John" and "courage to come screaming in" from 
across the street.  Do you remember you, Hself and I could barely find 
it on "best sound quality to date" Journals disc at your old place? 
Sound quality is down by the last song on side 1, sadly. 
Speed wobbles and slows down on side 2.  The Long And Winding Road 
sounds like a moo cow.  You mentioned the speed-up on side 3. 
Or was that the Chipmunks singing She Loves You?  Is there some 
sort of "law of conservation of vinyl rpm" at work here?  Highlight of 
side 3 was the Happy Rockefeller interview.  Are you sure you meant to 
part with that?  [Subject line is joke about the sped up Sie Liebt Dich".] 


THEE: I read with interest your Monopoly page re the three 
rules you want to change. I just want to make you aware that you 
have misstated the first rule. A player does not skip out on rent 
if the next player rolls the dice. He only gets off if the SECOND 
player following rolls. 


THEE: I guess I thought the Happy Rockefeller quote came from Ed Rudy's 
LP.  Now that raises the important question of just how many Beatle 
albums Rudy put out.  I only have the first one. 


ME: Subject: a quick one while I'm here 

I took another look at Hself's entry in my guest book.  The 
CollegePark in her web address is a fake out.  It's not a 
geographical place; it's one of the themed "neighborhoods" of 
geocities.  CollegePark is for websites related to "university 
life - from academics to extra-curriculars."  Like my CapitolHill 
address implies politics and/or unarchy. 


THEE: Subject: Their universal appeal 

I watched a documentray about Rita Hayworth last night.  It was 
sad.  (She died of Alzheimer's at age 68 in 1987.)  The narration 
was supposed to sound like period newsreel narrators.  In one 
newsreel, Hayworth is referred to as "the lovely Rita."  Do we know if 
this was a popular name? 

Our friend Hself employed a web site that I actually heard 
about on "All Things Considered."  Here are the results.  (Hself is the 
chap whose brother was in a band that recorded a song called "Paul 
McCartney and Wings.") 

>I did this little automatic poetry project, and I thought you 
>might enjoy it.  Altavista's web page now has a (most imperfect) 
>automatic translation program on it. I thought this would be fun: 

     English: 

     Desmond has a barrow in the marketplace. Molly is the singer in a band. 
     Desmond says to Molly "Girl, I like your face," And Molly says this as 
     she takes him by the hand: "Ob La Di Ob Le Da Life goes on, bra, 
     La La how the life goes on." 

     English-Portugese-English: 

     Desmond has a stand of hand in marketplace. Molly is to singer in a band. 
     Desmond says the Molly "girl who I taste of its face" 
     and Molly says this as it makes examination of it for the hand: of 
     "the life Ob La Di Ob Le Of he goes in bra, 
     la of la as the life goes on" 

     English-Portugese-English-German-English: 

     The moon has a location of the hand in the market. Molly is to the 
     singer in a tape. 
     The moon says that the Molly "girl, who tastes I by its face" and 
     says by Molly this, while it forms check of it for the hand: 
     "from the life span whether La Di goes whether to Le of it into bra, 
     La of La, while the life span comes up", 

     E-P-E-G-E-French-English: 

     The moon has a site of the hand on the market. Molly is to the singer 
     in a tape. 
     The moon indicates that Molly "girl, who tastes I by her face" 
     and called by Molly this, while it controls forms of him for the hand: 
     "of the duration if Di of disappears if with of him in will bra, 
     of, whereas the duration goes up", 

     E-P-E-G-E-F-E-Spanish-English: 

     The moon has a site of the hand in the market. Molly is to the singer 
     in a tape. 
     The moon indicates to that Molly "girl, who proves I next to her face 
     "and called by Molly this, whereas she controls forms of him for the 
     hand:" of the duration if I gave of it disappears if with of him inside 
     bra of the will, of, whereas the duration goes upon", 

     All of that, plus -Italian-English: 

     The moon has a place of the hand in the market. Molly is to the singer 
     in a tape. 
     The moon indicates to that Molly "girl, that demonstrates the 
     neighbor to its face" 
     and called from Molly this, while it controls the shapes for the hand: 
     "of the duration if you gave of it, it disappears with the bra 
     of the inner part of the will, of, while the duration goes on", 


THEE: Your web page's guest book seems to be heating up.  
Surprising considering the TWILIGHT ZONE-based, pseudoscience 
found at your site ...  :) 

I came across another company offering free web pages; they have a 
neighborhood called "Beatlesville".  Unfortunately, they aren't up 
to house number 9091 yet. 


THEE: Subject: Evolution Frequently Asked Question Answered 

I finally read your diatribe against Gould.  First of all, why don't you 
read something more up-to-date; his essay is nearly 20 years old. 

You say: 

 => [Gould] says evolution is "one of the half dozen 'great ideas' 
 => developed by science."  In the previous analogy with gravitation, 
 => would he say that falling bodies are one of the "great ideas" of 
 => science?  One would think the "great ideas" are the theories - 
 => the explanations of observed phenomena. 

I assume he meant it in terms of the impact the *idea* had on human 
culture/civilization/thought/whatever.  Similar to Copernicus (right?) 
realizing the earth revolved around the sun and not vice-versa, Galileo 
seeing the moons of Jupiter, Leewenhoek (I can't pronounce it and I can't 
spell it) viewing microscopic life under a microscope, Newton and your 
beloved gravitation, etc.  You get the idea (pun intended)! 

 => Gould duly admits (p258), "preserved transitions are not common." 
 => He is more exasperated on page 260 ... 

Exasperated - or exasperating? 

 => Why would - and how could - an animal with a multiboned jaw give 
 => birth to one with a double jaw joint?  Why would - and how could - 
 => an animal with a double jaw joint give birth to one with a jaw 
 => plus ear-bones? 

Genetic engineering experiments with fruitflies have produced equally 
radical mutants.  And, of course, there are reports of frogs with extra 
legs because of pollution, not to mention the evolution of 
antibiotic-resistant bacteria.  (Update: you discuss the frogs briefly at 
the bottom of your web page.) 

 => A less polite opponent might respond, "Keep digging!" 

Could you reconstruct a complete history of the past century by digging up 
newspapers from landfills?  Or would your history maybe jump from mop-top 
John Lennon playing the organ with his elbow at Shea Stadium directly to 
Yoko Ono screeching from inside a bag on stage? 

And - you got me thinking - do stars evolve?  If so, how do we know? 

 => Never mind (for now) the boggling question of how the appearance of 
 => just one ever-so-slightly evolved creature results in the demise of 
 => the entire population of the species which bore it. 

Aside from you, who says it causes the demise of "the entire population"? 
Both lineages could continue to develop independently, either in the same 
location or in separate locations. 

 => (Gravity waves, Dr. Webber?) 

Correct spelling?  (Answer after web search: no.  Go to 
http://www.landfield.com/faqs/astronomy/faq/part4/ and search for "weber"; 
other, non-FAQ sites yielded the same spelling.) 


ME: Subject: Evolution FAQ passes the *acid* test! 

> I finally read your diatribe against Gould.  First of all, why don't you 
> read something more up-to-date; his essay is nearly 20 years old. 

I gave a batch of reasons.  Are you saying that evolutionists 
have just "found the answer" in the last 20 years?  Not too confidence- 
inspiring, eh? 

>  => [Gould] says evolution is "one of the half dozen 'great ideas' 
>  => developed by science."  In the previous analogy with gravitation, 
>  => would he say that falling bodies are one of the "great ideas" of 
>  => science?  One would think the "great ideas" are the theories - 
>  => the explanations of observed phenomena. 
> 
> I assume he meant it in terms of the impact the *idea* had on human 
> culture/civilization/thought/whatever.  Similar to Copernicus (right?) 
> realizing the earth revolved around the sun and not vice-versa, Galileo 
> seeing the moons of Jupiter, Leewenhoek (I can't pronounce it and I can't 
> spell it) viewing microscopic life under a microscope, Newton and your 
> beloved gravitation, etc.  You get the idea (pun intended)! 

Ok, I almost see your point.  But I expect you almost see mine.  By 
the way, gravitation is not beloved by me for the reasons you might expect.  I 
get a kick out of it as being perhaps the foremost example in all of science 
where the "explanation" doesn't *explain* a darn thing.  Just by giving 
the phenomenon a *name* explains something???  (And don't get me started 
on "curved" space.) 

>  => Gould duly admits (p258), "preserved transitions are not common." 
>  => He is more exasperated on page 260 ... 
> 
> Exasperated - or exasperating? 

I meant he sounds as if he himself is deep in the throes of exasperation. 

>  => Why would - and how could - an animal with a multiboned jaw give 
>  => birth to one with a double jaw joint?  Why would - and how could - 
>  => an animal with a double jaw joint give birth to one with a jaw 
>  => plus ear-bones? 
> 
> Genetic engineering experiments with fruitflies have produced equally 
> radical mutants.  And, of course, there are reports of frogs with extra 
> legs because of pollution, not to mention the evolution of 
> antibiotic-resistant bacteria.  (Update: you discuss the frogs briefly at 
> the bottom of your web page.) 

Great.  Another pointer to fruitflies with not a mention of what they evolved 
into.  You know, there's a big difference between the development of an ear 
which works on a new and improved concept and an extra nose growing out of 
your ankle. 

>  => A less polite opponent might respond, "Keep digging!" 
> 
> Could you reconstruct a complete history of the past century by digging up 
> newspapers from landfills?  Or would your history maybe jump from mop-top 
> John Lennon playing the organ with his elbow at Shea Stadium directly to 
> Yoko Ono screeching from inside a bag on stage? 

First of all, I myself am not that impolite.  Second of all, 
the answer to the first question is "yes".  Third of all, your second 
question indicates a confusion on your part between evolution and maturation. 

> And - you got me thinking - do stars evolve?  If so, how do we know? 

Again, (somewhat seriously, this time) you confuse aging with evolution. 

>  => Never mind (for now) the boggling question of how the appearance of 
>  => just one ever-so-slightly evolved creature results in the demise of 
>  => the entire population of the species which bore it. 
> 
> Aside from you, who says it causes the demise of "the entire population"? 
> Both lineages could continue to develop independently, either in the same 
> location or in separate locations. 

Ah, yes.  Let's do the evolutionist evasion.  Whoever said modern man replaced 
earlier man?  Cro magnons are all around.  Same with modern horses and 
their ancestors.  Etc., etc. 

If evolutionists are going to change their tune on this one, they have 
to change the name to "branching".  And then the big problem becomes, 
why did a zillion species die out. 

> Finally, you want to talk about the "what" of evolution.  Okay, we're all 
> ears - if that is evolutionarily possible! 

No, no, no.  The ball is in their/your court.  I've provided a good 
framework (my pun, here) for whatever description they come up with. 

> A curious aspect of the theory of evolution is that everybody thinks he 
> understands it. 
>  -- Jacques Monod _On the Molecular Theory of Evolution_ (1974) 

Hear, hear.  You know, there's an amazing similarity between evolution 
and copyright in this respect.  Everybody gets all huffy about 
*anything* anybody else says about copyright, but you can't pin *anybody* 
down on what the real scoop is. 

There is or was a Sparks elementary school somewhere around here. 
It burned down. 


ME: Thanks for the monopoly feedback.  You wrote: 

> I read with interest your Monopoly page re the three rules you want to 
> change. I just want to make you aware that you have misstated the first 
> rule. A player does not skip out on rent if the next player rolls the dice. 
> He only gets off if the SECOND player following rolls. 

A don't doubt for a second that you know what you are talking about, but 
I'm at least a little baffled.  Is that a new rule, or a tournament rule, 
maybe?  I've never heard that or met anyone who plays that way. 
I don't have an American set handy, but I saw the rules to a British set 
yesterday.  The game has a 1961 copyright and was bought around 1974. 
Under "Landing on owned property" it said: 

  Note that if the owner fails to ask for his rent before the next throw 
  of the dice no rent may be collected. 

[I've since seen a 1950s vintage American Monopoly game with the "second 
player" rule.] 

I'll bet you can clear me up on another point.  According to the rules 
you've put up (which sound like the boxtop rules, to my memory) 

  A player is bankrupt when he owes more than he can pay either 
  to another player or to the bank.  If his debt is to another 
  player, he must turn over to that player all that he has of value... 

Does this even allow for the situation that I railed against - the 
imminently bankrupt player turning to someone else in the hopes 
of a bail-out?  Or is he, as a literal reading of the rules indicates, 
bankrupt and out of the game the *moment* the dice show him landing on a 
property with a rent he can't pay? 


ME: Subject: vinyl, vinyl everywhere 

Took me 8 trips from my car to my house.  I've already polished 
off about 1.5 inches of 45s. Good songs were Banana Splits (Wait 
Till Tomorrow); Style Council (A Solid Bond, In Your Heart inst); 
and [I forget] (Like A Rolling Stone). 


THEE: Yesterday, we were browsing through the antique 
stores in Ellicot City and I saw this guy with a John Lennon T-
shirt, bell-bottom pants, long hair, and Lennonesque sun glasses 
- I almost mistook him for David Peel. 

 => Are you saying that evolutionists have just "found the answer" in 
 => the last 20 years?  Not too confidence-inspiring, eh? 

It's possible that their thinking has "evolved".  And, as I read recently, 
Egyptologists have learned more in the past 20 years about Ancient Egypt 
than they learned in the previous 200 years.  Other fields progress, too. 

 => Great.  Another pointer to fruitflies with not a mention of what 
 => they evolved into. 

Who said they evolved into another species?  In response to your question 
about how (read "if") an animal with one type of jaw could give birth to a 
offspring with a different type of jaw, I was offering the example of 
mutant fruit flies. 

 => [Y]our second question indicates a confusion on your part 
 => between evolution and maturation. 

Granted, John's artistry evolved, but do you really think Yoko's artistry 
matured? 

 => > [D]o stars evolve?  If so, how do we know? 
 => 
 => [Y]ou confuse aging with evolution. 

No, you're missing (or not answering) my point.  Do you think stars age (HR 
diagram, main sequence, and all that stuff)?  If so, how do you know?  All 
you see is a snapshot in time of millions and millions of stars.  Can you 
in good conscience fit an aging curve to the data points representing the 
individual star characteristics?  (Which brings up the interesting subject 
of time scales.  See Daniel Dennett's book, KINDS OF MINDS, for an 
interesting exploration of the topic.) 

 => Let's do the evolutionist evasion.  Whoever said modern man 
 => replaced earlier man?  Cro magnons are all around.  Same with 
 => modern horses and their ancestors.  Etc., etc. 

You posed the "mind-boggling" question of why the appearance of one evolved 
creature resulted in the demise of the parent creatures.  There's nothing 
about evolution that precludes the parent species from continuing to exist 
(e.g., apes and man, but I imagine you'll argue that one). 

 => [W]hy did a zillion species die out? 

Okay, what are your thoughts on the subject?  And don't tell me you don't 
have any. 


THEE: Why did I buy the Banana Splits 45?  One time I was 
in a record store in Lancaster, Pa., and I was feeling like such 
a completest, that I just purchased the first record in the bin. 


ME: Subject: You can run, but you can't hide [from unarchy] 

I looked at a few newspapers today at the library.  I guess you 
were too shellshocked to report to me the Mar 11 98 editorial in the 
Post embracing unarchy.  It was called "Reinventing juries." 

Didn't know whether to laugh or cry at Banana Splits story.  The 
best record of the first 75 I've listened to was *randomly* 
selected?!!!  Yikes. 

By the way, a couple of those journals [British magazines?] provided new 
perspective on the John Lennon poem, "Deaf Ted, Danuta, and Me". 


ME: 
>Are you gonna run for President in 2000 (or do you think the Year 2K 
>problem on your Laser Pal will hamper your efforts)? 

"Running for President, that sounds kind of funny to me.  I'm just a 
guy trying to be heard." 

Thanks for the Kinds Of Minds tip.  Sounds like something that could 
interest me.  Did I ever tell you about a story in Omni magazine 
called Adagio?  Very thought-provoking. 


THEE: You gotta understand, the record store where I 
bought the Banana Splits 45 was a great store.  It was Stan's 
Record Bar.  I bought an Apple "Early Beatles" there in 1982, 
still sealed! 


ME: I'm sure this is a dumb question (and I could research it 
myself) but are the Morgans related to blueboy75?  Otherwise, how do 
you know the Morgans?  Back in the 80s, when I was still buying 
music, most all of it was self-recorded stuff on cassettes. 

(Did you know the French write K7 for "cassette"?) 


ME: I got a newsletter from Jorge of the local Beatles fan club 
today.  He made an interesting discovery while transcribing the 
Washington Coliseum concert dialog.  He worked with the complete concert 
video, and then dug out the Anthology and First U.S. Visit footage of the 
Coliseum.  He says, "I stumbled into what I believe is a reprehensible 
misrepresentation of history in these [last] two videos." 

Rather than spilling the beans, mind if I test your awe-inspiring 
memory?  In each of those 3 videos, which song do the Beatles play 
after Paul's introduction, "We'd like to thank everybody here in 
America, Washington, America, for uh buying this particular record and 
starting this thing off in America and giving us a chance to come here 
and see you all in Washington.  Thank you!" 

Record of the day yesterday was Della Reese.  With every passing day 
the conclusion becomes more inescapable: our parents were right. 


THEE: Blueboy or Jay, says he's not related to the MORGANS 
of the 80's. His name is Jay Morgans...and his brother is also in 
the band. Glad you liked ATY.  Did you like MY song? 

I'm now corresponding with a guy in New Zealand and a girl in Hawaii!! 
I really love this online stuff!!!  TOO COOL! 


THEE: While I sat in various waiting rooms, I read the Nov. 15, 1964, 
issue of "The New York Times Sunday Magazine."  I found a couple of 
fine references.  There was the article on mercenaries in the Congo 
(not a war that many people remember anymore).  One unkempt mercenary 
was described as a "dirty Beatle."  There was also a letter from a 
17-year-old, apparently responding to an article about how today's 
teens are a bunch of spoiled bums.  He described himself as a teen who 
"preferred J.S. Bach to the Beatles and New Republic to Playboy." 


ME: Re: "We'd like to thank everybody here in 
America, Washington, America, for uh buying this particular record and 
starting this thing off in America and giving us a chance to come here 
and see you all in Washington.  Thank you!" 

The "reprehensible misrepresentation of history" is that Paul's intro well 
and truly was personalized to the Washington fans and deejay Carroll James 
and was for I Want To Hold Your Hand.  Anthology and First U.S. Visit both 
cut to She Loves You.  I wouldn't stand in the way of anyone calling that 
reprehensible, even though my personal outrage threshold is much greater 
nowadays.  [Carroll James was the first American deejay to play 
IWTHYH.  He had a copy flown over from England in December 1963.] 


THEE: Well, dang, here are the Beatle books from your list that I want: 

     4. THE YOBYALP INTERVIEWS WITH JOHN & YOKO. Sheff. HB 

     16. BE MY BABY. Ronnie Spector. HB. 2 lb. (I'm willing to offer my 
     softcover in trade). 

     29. THE GOON SHOW SCRIPTS. Spike Milligan. 

     42. A HARD DAY'S KNIGHT. Ted Mark.  From Paris to Lanham to D.C. 


ME: I know there is a local pet communicator.  Don't know if she 
is a GP or specializes in dogs, and don't know if she's officially 
sanctioned by Cyberark. 

How's this for a new cyberword - "webileptic".  Think it will 
shame anybody into calming down their sites? 


THEE: Good one from today's on-line Reuter's entertainment news: 

  When Sean Lennon announced, halfway through his New York solo 
  debut, that he was about to do a cover by "the greatest band ever," he 
  raised plenty of eyebrows by promptly launching into a lovely, 
  slightly shambling rendition of "God Only Knows" -- a 1966 hit by the 
  Beach Boys. 


ME: Record of the day yesterday was 
the Narada sampler.  (Where do you find 'em???)  Record of the 
day today was the Scott McKenzie flip side, something about Let's 
just leave, nobody'll miss us.  It was *almost* meaningful somehow. 

Runner up was Lubricated Goat: 20th Century Rake.  That was the first 
Sub Pop that got a 2nd listen. 

Oh yeah, big discovery today.   The Marvin Gaye song Baby Don't You 
Do It (10/10/64, No. 27) has the line "keep on keeping on".  I'd say 
that pips Bob Dylan's "You Ain't Goin' Nowhere" with weeks to spare. 


ME: 
1. The fan in my computer makes a rough, buzzy noise sometimes.  Got me 
worried.  Can you pull another 486 out of the trash, or are there 
any fan mechanics at integ.com? 

2. Geocities just bumped us up to 6 megs. 

3. ev-o-lu-tion n. A gradual process in which something changes into 
a different and usually more complex or better form.  (American Heritage 
Dictionary). 

Them evolution boys even have the dictionary writers confused! 


ME: One of the records in Hself's collection gave me a chuckle.  It's 
by a punk group called the Dwarves.  Side one was 34 seconds long. 
Side two was 39 seconds long.  What keeps it from being too funny 
is that the Dwarves are pure evil.  I lasted just 1 song at a concert 
of theirs once.  Whew, still makes me shudder... 

I baked an applesauce spice cake tonight. 


THEE: Too funny about the Dwarves. 

 


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